Thursday, September 07, 2006

Indonesian Islamist Abu Bakar Bashir: 'It is Not Democracy That We Want, but Allah-cracy!'

The Indonesian Islamist cleric Abu Bakar Bashir, who was released from prison in July 2006 after having been charged with complicity in the Bali terror attacks of 2002, gave an interview to Al-Jazeera in which he outlined his plans for establishing an Islamic state in Indonesia. Bashir attacked democracy and the West, and called on Muslims to wage jihad against the ruling regimes in the Muslim world. The interview appeared on August 21, 2006, on Al-Jazeera's English-language website.

The following are excerpts from the article: [1]

"We Demand an Islamic State"

"We demand an Islamic state, and not some form of Islamisation of society. We want the state to be Islamic, with Islamic leaders who have the courage and will to implement the shari'a in total. There is no other way...

"We want an Islamic state where Islamic law is not just in the books but enforced, and enforced with determination. There is no space and no room for democratic consultation. The shari'a is set and fixed, so why do we need to discuss it anymore? Just implement it!

"Right now we are drafting our own constitutional amendments for Indonesia, the framework for an Indonesian Islamic state where Islamic laws are enforced. Indonesians must understand that there is no Islamic state without the enforcement of Islamic laws. Otherwise it is just talk and nothing else."

"Our Leaders Have All Been... Trained to Speak the Way Their Western Bosses Want Them to..."


"...We should not accept the idea that being a radical is a bad thing. Any movement for change will be radical...
"Today the Western powers and media want to domesticate us like sheep, to keep us tame and domesticated. But why are animals domesticated? So that they can be slaughtered in the end!

"That is why they use the label 'radical' in the way they do, to keep us scared and to keep us under control. This is true for our leaders, who have all been domesticated and trained to speak the way their Western bosses want them to...
"The West is trying to weaken Islam from outside and inside. They attack our people and invade our countries from outside, and they weaken us from within with ideas like secularism, liberalism and democracy. This is all designed to contaminate our pure Islam."


"The Jews are Cunning and Cannot Be Trusted"

"There is not a single Muslim leader today who has the courage and commitment to defend Islam and Muslims, they are all in awe of the United States and other Western powers, and are indebted to them... Our Prophet warned that this would be the case in the future, that the Muslim ummat would be great in numbers, but weak in spirit...

Entire article here.

2 comments:

  1. Thank you for responding. You texted :
    "ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF ABRAHAM, MOSES, JESUS AND MUHAMMAD."

    No Sir, Islam is the religion of Mohammed, not Isa, which Islam denies being killed on the cross.
    Translations of the Qur'an, Chapter 4:
    AN-NISA (WOMEN)
    004.157

    YUSUFALI: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

    PICKTHAL: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.

    SHAKIR: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.

    Source : http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.157

    Abraham could not have been a Muslim because the "religion of Islam" was not even thought of in Abraham's times. Here is your Koran in deception and fraud.

    003.067
    YUSUFALI: Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.
    PICKTHAL: Abraham was not a Jew, nor yet a Christian; but he was an upright man who had surrendered (to Allah), and he was not of the idolaters.
    SHAKIR: Ibrahim was not a Jew nor a Christian but he was (an) upright (man), a Muslim, and he was not one of the polytheists.

    Source : http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.067

    You texted "Question--------- How could an illiterate man like the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) be the founder of a faith??"

    He could talk, not read, that's simple.

    You texted "Info--------------- The Ten Commandments given to Prophet Moses (pbuh) was the beginning of Islamic Sharia Law."

    Seeing how the New Testament and the Torah are corrupted books in the eyes of Muslims, can you be sure of this? Islam is the final testament of "God / Allah". What kind of Muslim are you that would accept ANYTHING BUT ISLAM?

    Really what kind of Muslim are you that will not fight until religion should only be for Allah? (Islam).

    8:39 “And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do .”

    Tell me of Dar al Harb (the house of war) and Dar al Islam (The house of Islam)


    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/041.smt.html#041.6985
    Book 041, Number 6985:
    Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/058.sbt.html#005.058.188

    Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188:
    Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:"During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I SAW A SHE-MONKEY SURROUNDED BY A NUMBER OF MONKEYS. THEY WERE ALL STONING IT, BECAUSE IT HAD COMMITTED ILLEGAL SEXUAL INTERCOURSE. I TOO, STONED IT ALONG WITH THEM."

    The man you call a prophet I call a madman.

    Please don't bother with the "Weak Hadith" argument, either wipe these hadiths out or accept them.

    Amazing how Muslim claim to be for Christianity and Judaism, but DISPUTE OUR BELIEFS ON Muslim WEBSITES.

    Also you texted "AS A WESTENER THE RATE OF ISLAMS INFLUENCE IS SKY ROCKETING ESPECIALLY IN EUROPE"

    We know this, Europe is the springboard for Islam to spread into America.It's interesting how you love that
    "Islam Rocketing", that's almost a pun, Islam is exploding. Muslims are exploding. The people that speak for your religion are the good Muslims, the Mujahadin.

    I don't mind a parasite, a second rate parasite, I can't stand.

    You are always welcome too post in this forum.


    Be well, in your life, and get out of the killing cult called Islam.Muslims are sliding down a very slippery slope. If Muslims desire you be shahids, it will be the duty of Non Muslims to help them out in their endeavor. I do not hate you or your family. But the time has come for honest truth, and truth is not hate.

    Jeff Davis

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  2. Anonymous2:20 AM

    hey zidane,kiss my ass you frigging terrorist,you keep your religion and we will keep ours,so piss off.

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